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hey what's up everybody I'm in it I'm

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Joe and we are the UFO pros and we are

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podcasting live tonight facility our

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apologies were starting 3 minutes late

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but our good friend Doug is with us

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tonight so please give him a virtual

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round of applause ladies and gentlemen

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yeah Doug it is dude and to be honest

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with you I don't know Doug that well and

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he just got here and I'm kind of excited

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to ask him his opinion on what we're

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gonna talk about tonight and maybe um

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and then we'll get into kind of like

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what your overall thoughts are about

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UFOs aliens thank you Doug let's give

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Doug a round of applause y'all we're

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gonna go ahead and give Doug around and

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Joe do you have any followers we want to

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shout out early on right tonight and

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just get it out of the way in a good way

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not a bad way in a good way because

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let's take a look I just feel like we

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save it for the end and then we don't

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get to really acknowledge people the way

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to like I really want to so we have got

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some new followers gary k miller on

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instagram yep there are some other lima

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now cuz i was actually not gonna mention

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that one I think that's a porno name

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that looks auto radio and I think the

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lingerie stories is kind of porn out to

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Matt Romania oh thank you the creative

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marketing zone I'm sure that's a

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legitimate fun interactive account but

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you know what Sandra Tenenbaum is giving

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us some love look at all that that's

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great so we really appreciate you if

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you're listening also talking tree has

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been following us I don't know if you

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know about the in in Joshua Tree

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California every year they have a UFO

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conference there and so that conference

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is not following us so I followed them

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oh nice Oh might be gay and also real

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quick one on to Twitter X - man has

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followed us I've always wanted to X man

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to follow me so that's great also

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tweets and cosmic con like to tweet we

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were and that was cool and by the way if

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you guys are listening we are on social

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media all things at UFO Bros TV except

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anybody boo

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I'm shining into the chatroom goodbye it

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appears to have been stalled roughly I

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can't seem to make it work coming up I

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don't know it's a software thing which

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is great because on the topics that is

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alien software and sort of symbols and

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things are you ready to hear about it

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you know I think Doug's stopped talking

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what are you you know let's before we

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get into what I was talking about cuz we

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do we do yes let's go you gotta go so we

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talk about the project yes tonight but

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before we do that I want to ask mr. Doug

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here what's your thoughts men on aliens

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UFOs it's kind of the whole subject an

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outsider's point of view yes please in

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how about anything paranormal in any

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sort of leg sorry so any paranormal so

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did you see her your permit was yeah so

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spirits and ghosts I totally believe it

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because I think I am is just

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disappointed as you are because I

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haven't really seen anything

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earth-shattering or that would make me

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go hey that is definitely from another

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planet doesn't see anything like that we

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have seen some kind of strange things

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and Joe and I and our last podcast are

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actually a few podcasts ago we talked

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about the blinking light outside

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yes that's like the only thing we've

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experienced is there's this weird slow

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blinking light that was slowly moving to

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the left and then disappeared yeah

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that's pretty crazy and then it came

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right back to the exact same spot and

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just stayed there blinking it was really

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strange and then but that's what makes

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potentially I you know it as much as I

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love this topic and as much as I talk

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about it I am somewhat skeptical

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skeptical in a sense like I need to have

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some kind of corroborating evidence of

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some sort so in order for me to know

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that that was a UFO I would have to

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somehow call someone go through the

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whole process of reporting and

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unidentified flying object and funny

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enough is I don't even know how to do

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that so so I don't know that I'd ever

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really get clarity or closure on it or

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for that you jerk but please tell us

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about some unions and I do believe that

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there's something out there that is in

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direct connection with us there I know

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there is UFOs there is a means I know

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this so our friend Doug like he's saying

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he wants proof like I feel kind of the

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same way like you got experience it I

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don't feel like the proof has already

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been put out there but everything's been

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made so skeptical that they don't

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believe it cuz there's so much stuff

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there's so much different videos yeah

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the real ones probably out there but

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yeah like you know it begs the question

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Doug have you ever seen a video that you

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said okay that's totally real in regard

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to aliens and UFOs on my youtube or

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online or no that's totally real no I

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have not but the only reason so I

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believe in ghosts because I seen one

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myself so that's what made me start

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believing in ghosts because I saw it

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before I saw a ghost

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I never thought ghosts exist I just seen

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videos and things I never thought

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existed I saw it I believe in ghosts

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same with UFOs same you think so I

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totally that it's possible but I don't

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know because I myself but it was

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definitely I'm gonna fight sure speaking

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of we're gonna talk about project carrot

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know they know that's like it's left

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okay no actually we have seven plus

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minutes left and I think we should talk

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about project carrot what do you think

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let's go okay so in the summer of 2007

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these strange pictures were sent to I

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don't know if you guys are familiar with

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the organization MUFON it's the mutual

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UFO network and what they do is they

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so they reported these pictures to move

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go ahead get out with the move on I'm

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moving on I'm telling you like I'm

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telling you this and anyhow Linda

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Moulton Howe which I'm sure there's

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maybe you don't know who she is but

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she's like one of the most prominent

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figures in ufology and people that

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follow and investigate and kind of

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really dig into these sorts of things

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she got her hands on these pictures had

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them analyzed and continued to receive

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more info information from a source that

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is somewhat shady in a sense but the

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only thing that they're able to do

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really is analyze the pictures to see

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you know is this a digital is this

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because it's been produced digitally or

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is this actually in the photograph and I

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think the only real conclusion they came

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to was that it is indeed in the

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photograph you saw the pictures right

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Doug yeah yeah so I guess forensic ly

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they're able to determine that and so

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she did some more research with this

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person who is leaking the information

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she got I guess an email from him and he

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sends her a document titled project

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carrot and it basically is a manual and

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a description the CA are PT it is and I

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don't remember you have fun with it

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once oh man something extraterrestrial

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reversed something let me get that on

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there for you let's see here we're gonna

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we're gonna turn over to Doug you're

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Jerry and Joe well I look up this info

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so Joe give them some info with Gus

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so project carrot so where were these

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pictures taken all over the world

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there's a there's two that we know of

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but it's just some craft that has the

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same markings as markings on the UFO

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that crashed in 1947 yeah it was the

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same markings yeah piece of metal

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flipped in the air so the explanation is

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is that it is completely silent except

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for a really high frequency kind of

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buzzing sound when they're underneath it

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but the description is that it just

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stays hovering except for maybe it's

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slowly turning in a clockwise or

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clockwise direction and the kind of

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strangest thing about it is they said it

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was flickering in and out of visibility

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and like a cloak yeah and exactly in a

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way an invisibility cloak on this it's

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like a drone crap it certainly doesn't

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have anything in it as no motors no

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props no jets dead silent and these

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pictures like you can compare them

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there's like just taking two cases in

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example one in the bay area of

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California and there was also one in

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South Lake third nuts up at Lake Tahoe

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two completely different people had sent

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these pictures to Linda Moulton Howe in

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addition to this person that she had

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been communicating with sent her this

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document and it really details and

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outlines exactly what these things are

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they are indeed extraterrestrial nobody

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knows how long they've been in the sky

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but in some way somehow one either

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crashed or we retrieved it and what we

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were able to do was sort of

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reverse-engineer the technologies

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this what they say is an alien artifact

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and that kind of goes to show similar

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cases in Roswell in 1947 they talked

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about technologies that they obtained

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from that which kind of you know is the

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same theme in all these crashes is

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reverse engineering this technology and

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one of the technologies that I want to

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talk about was these symbols these alien

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symbols and if you look at the crash

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histories if you look at the crash

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histories Roswell Hecht symbols yes

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Kecksburg head symbols and the the one

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in there's a few basically there's a

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handful of sightings or crashes where

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there are symbols on the crafts that

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they find and so the interesting thing

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about this document is it explains it

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the way the symbols work is they are and

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aware a self-aware software sort of

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program and that the symbol somehow it

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used at some sort of field I guess like

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a gravity field or a gravity wave in

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order to align so rather than having

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like nuts and bolts it's how all the

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parts of the craft are held together via

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you're a stupid does that make sense

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yeah so these symbols I apparently

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coordinate that sort of thing they're

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like a they're like a self-aware program

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software like down to the molecule I

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guess on these crafts that have been in

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the skies for they don't know how long

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and this project was about reverse

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engineering those to see what what

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technologies were applicable to like the

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consumer and also for military use as

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well but we're out a minute in 15

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seconds what do you guys think any

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questions starting back in the 30s and

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40s this project specifically was in the

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80s project carrot and it was in Palo

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project where they were reverse

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engineering these alien artifacts which

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we see are the drones the pictures that

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you saw yeah

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either it was downed or they got it down

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you have a picture of it on the website

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yeah you know we're gonna do we're gonna

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put it on both Twitter and Instagram so

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that everybody can see we're kind of

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running out of time here guys we're at

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40 seconds so real quick pitch if you

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want to support us please was it that

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you to Carla as well yes Carla thank you

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thank you Doug for being our guest

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George is cool

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thank you guys and we'll see you guys